Physiological point of view
Often people feel bad in church due to their lack of preparation; they probably don’t attend church that often, so they feel uncomfortable. There are several physiological reasons that can cause discomfort.
A large number of people in the room
As a rule, large numbers of people attend church services. Often a church does not have a large room for parishioners, so inside the church it can be quite cramped and stuffy. The smell of incense, dim light and many candles make the situation worse. This situation contributes to the appearance of weakness, dizziness and fainting, which, in turn, indicate a lack of oxygen in the body.
Long service
In Orthodox churches, as a rule, you need to be on your feet for the entire period of service. Some services can last for hours, so it is not surprising that parishioners become tired and begin to feel unwell.
If your legs are tired, sit down on a bench, because, as they say, it’s better to think about prayer while sitting than to think about your legs while standing
Fatigue and lack of adequate oxygen can cause dizziness.
Increased impressionability
Often, a deterioration in well-being is caused by the fact that a person may be overly emotional. The soulful reading of prayers by the priest, chants, the faces of saints on icons, the emotions of others, the fire from candles - all this greatly influences a person’s emotional state. If a parishioner’s psyche is unstable, he may feel unwell while in church.
Why things get bad in church
12 May
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For some reason, both the Russian Orthodox Church and the Christians themselves are trying to avoid this topic. However, in my opinion, such things cannot be ignored. For this whole epic with visiting churches every Sunday is nothing more than masochism. Abuse of both yourself and your children. Why? Please note that when you type the phrase “bad in” in Yandex, the pop-up tips make it clear that people feel bad only “in church” or “in the heat.” And it’s somehow strange that people who use Yandex search somehow don’t care at all why it is “bad in the circus”, “bad in the subway” or “bad in the market”... But they ask exactly why “bad in the church”. Apparently, many people have certain doubts and suspicions.
This is what the priests say to this: “In fact, any church has one energy - God’s grace. All churches are consecrated by the Holy Spirit. Christ the Savior dwells in all churches with His Body and Blood. Angels of God stand at the entrance to any temple. It's just about the person. It happens that this effect has a natural explanation. On holidays, when “parishioners” visit churches, they are jam-packed with people. After all, in fact, there are very few sacred places for so many Christians. And that’s why many people really feel stuffy. Sometimes it happens that in poor churches they burn incense with low-quality incense. But these reasons are not the main ones. It often happens that people feel bad even in a completely empty church. Christians are well aware of the spiritual reasons for this phenomenon. It’s not for nothing that many unrepentant sinners feel bad in church - it is the power of God that rejects their sinful will, and the angels punish them for their iniquities.” However, in some interesting and unusual way this “God’s Grace” acts on people - they are carried out of the Christian cathedral feet first, loaded into an ambulance and for a medical examination. Some even went to intensive care. Someone to a mental hospital. After all, this is not an isolated case; it is a frequent occurrence. On the Internet alone, you can read enough of this from first-hand accounts on forums that it makes you feel sick... People write from different cities, different regions. Everyone everywhere has the same observations with a sharp deterioration in well-being. But many people don’t even go to the Internet, they can’t speak out... But some are satisfied with the explanation that “demons really come out of them.” I went, prayed, suffered, squeezed like lemon on a fish, dropped the emotional and energetic load - it became easier. And you don’t need to think anything, the demon is out! It's easier. Go on sinning. Just come back more often, Servant of God. And don’t forget to donate to the temple.
Naturally, we won’t ask the clergy any more about why people are being taken out of Christian churches. For the answer “the angels are punishing you for your iniquities” does not suit us, sensitive and sensible people, at all. Initiative angels, it turns out, can punish. Then why are they punished only in churches? No need to guess. Let's just go to church ourselves in order to illuminate our issue from a position of sanity. Which is what I did the other day. This was the second visit to the temple in my life. I attended a Judeo-Christian wedding ceremony for a cousin in one famous central cathedral of one famous large city.
We approach the church... nothing seems unusual. I open the door, take a step across the threshold and then the fun begins. If you are a very sensitive person to the atmosphere of your environment, or as some esotericist would say about “energy,” then it will not be difficult for you to guess what we are talking about. I think each of us has felt sudden changes in our own well-being, depending on the space around us. Imagine you walk into a luxuriously gilded mansion, with luxurious furniture and reflective parquet floors, at the same moment imagine that the mansion has been replaced by a wet, shabby dark basement, in the corner of which a half-rotten rat is resting, and every step in the dark with a 50/50 chance promises we get a broken leg, by falling into some hole or hitting a pipe, and now compare the sensations in the first and second cases. But let’s return to the church - the whole body around is enveloped in some kind of energetic muck, rot. The constantly moving active, vital, invigorating energy throughout the body stops, everything is blocked by dense negativity, which noticeably affects the subtle bodies closest to the physical. A feeling of oppression appears inside, a physical sensation of a sharp and strong loss of strength, all this happens in the very first seconds of being inside the building. The first thought in my head is that everything here is much worse than I expected, I need to get out of this rotten synagogue as soon as possible. But I stayed, through force. For the sake of experimentation, you can be patient. As the saints in the cassock began to read the prayer, it was difficult not to notice the increased beating of the heart of the anahata chakra (center of the chest). This is what many sensitive and not so sensitive colleagues from the forums tell us about. It gives the impression of an energy pumping, as with a strong emotion of fear, when you quickly lose a significant part of your energy. When your heart jumps out of your chest. Other, less sensitive individuals experience a less perceptible feeling of constraint, decline, intolerance to the glances that fall on you, and a desire to hide. Others completely overcome all this, trying not to show it, but in 90% of cases the essence is the same. At the end of the mega-show with the participation of priests, I went out into the street and it immediately became easier, my health gradually returned to normal. I won't set foot there anymore.
Yes, everything is transparent. I immediately exclude the energy of the invited guests with whom I entered the empty cathedral; everything is fine with them. What remains is the building itself, and let’s not forget about the people working there nearby—the clergy. Perhaps the cassock saints also have such an influence, perhaps even unconsciously :). It’s all this that adds up to a disgusting energy background. And I am more than sure that a sufficiently long stay in such places saturated with negativity will immediately affect a person’s health, including mental health. There is already confirmation. Yes... I have been to many unclean places, with huge crowds of people. Be it the metro, nightclub, disco or public transport. I have never seen anything like this, from which I conclude that the church is simply unique in this kind of negative manifestations. It seems like she has no competitors. Well, maybe a mausoleum with a corpse. But something doesn’t pull me there at all. Although, if in the Christian church they worship corpses, officially drink the blood and devour the flesh of Christ, then why are we surprised at such a rotten atmosphere. A little about the structure of church buildings. It becomes transparently clear to a no brainer that any Judeo-Christian church is built according to a strictly defined, centuries-tested technology. The domes must be in the shape of a Slavic warrior’s helmet and gilded. In ancient times, our knights used such helmets as symbolic protection from uninvited influence from the outside, they say, fear will not creep into the head of a warrior with such a headdress, and his hand will not tremble, so to speak, an “isolated system”, well, as you know, everything that has been used for centuries, one way or another acquires real, albeit not obvious at first glance, power. In a temple built using this technology, the dome structure itself plays the role of a reflector and does not allow “high energies” from above to pass through. That is, parishioners who have brought “dirt” with them: all their negative emotions and thoughts, all their sorrows, sorrows, adversities, sins and other mental rubbish - are boiled in their own shit, like in a cauldron with a lid tightly closed on top.
Why does the church prohibit all its clients from engaging in occultism, yoga, and self-development. In my opinion, partly because the church power structure with its entire hierarchy is afraid of free-minded and sensitive people, since the latter becomes visible to the true essence of Christianity, and not its beautiful gilded wrapper. Christianity is, first of all, politics, power over the minds of millions, control, manipulation of consciousness, and at the same time good profit, without taxation. That’s why people in the know were burned at the stake, because they knew a lot. Therefore, the massive appearance of various types of “rebellious” people is another reason why Christianity will decline. A person who comes into contact with higher thoughts and energies simultaneously gets the opportunity to notice and explore a much wider range of phenomena and processes in the world without the influence of mental frameworks and shackles that are so abundant in Christianity. As a result, you can no longer hide the sewing in the bag from the sighted. For times are changing. People change. The worldview is changing. Everything changes. Evolution, so to speak.
Baptism of children.
The sacrament of baptism in biblical culture is often the first church ritual, a ritual of egregorial interaction of the church, which is performed on newborns with the consent of the parents. That is, the sacrament of baptism is usually a church ritual of forcibly connecting souls who have newly entered into life to the biblical man-made “Spirit” - the egregor. By this, the church “Spirit” claims to be the first to fill the spiritual world of the newly born soul. And as a rule, the biblical egregor immediately hangs over the baby’s soul and psyche, dictating its automatisms to the baby’s soul. Churches speak very rudely about the need for baptism in infancy: “Do you have a baby? - Do not allow time for the damage to worsen; let him be sanctified in infancy and consecrated to the Spirit from his youth” (St. Gregory the Theologian († 389), Homily for Baptism).”
From this moment on, parents should not be surprised by the following surprises from their church-going child: · The life path of such a child will no longer be in their power and safe: he will be largely in the power of the church egregor - the “Spirit”, who can deal with the child according to everything a spectrum of possibilities, the properties of which directly depend on the people included in this egregor, but, as far as we know, based on the Orthodox contingent, the quality of the egregor leaves much to be desired, and therefore the consequences can be very diverse. · The surprises that the child will present after baptism - including “inexplicable” troubles - will largely correspond to the goals of the biblical egregor in relation to both the child and the family as a whole (since it is very convenient to influence the parents through the child). · The church egregor will imitate ensuring the safety of the family and the child (through the child: his health, success, obedience...) in case of general submission to the goals of the biblical “Spirit”; at the same time, in case of disobedience, the church biblical egregor will stimulate troubles associated with raising a child, thus influencing parents in order to further bind them and the child to the biblical egregor. · Parents will think that only the church ensures the safety of both themselves and their children, trusting the church more and more. This will make parents even more dependent on the biblical egregor. And the latter, controlled by the hierarchy of the church, going back to the “world behind the scenes,” will ideally be able to do whatever he wants with such a family.
· A stable connection to the church egregor is like being hooked on a drug needle: without the next dose, “withdrawal” is ensured and death is possible if the drug addict is not helped in disconnecting from drug addiction. But during the period of the drug’s effect, an unearthly “paradise” begins for the addict. This is approximately what the church promises, luring immaculate souls into dependence from childhood. The danger of egregorial connection to the “Spiritual” “needle” is that, unlike the chemical dependence of a drug addict, it cannot be “measured” by the methods existing in society. But the end for addicts is usually the same: illness and premature death. Any unnatural addiction leads to various unwanted side effects. The mysticism (in Russian - sacrament) of baptism should actually be known to everyone who is familiar with the Bible. But everything that lies on the surface is often not easy to see. Moreover, biblical logic (egregor - first of all logic - algorithm) does not allow us to understand the harmfulness of baptism, but, on the contrary, interprets it as the most necessary necessity, without which holiness is impossible. The biblical canons (on the basis of which the biblical egregor “Spirit” was formed) offer in their descriptions the following algorithm of the life path of the most famous righteous man in “Christianity,” Jesus Christ, revered by God: Baptism in the waters of the Jordan (carried out by John the Baptist according to the prophecy of Isaiah); after being recognized as a criminal, torture on the cross and death. This is how the earthly life of Jesus Christ ended according to biblical canons. After this, his heavenly life and holiness allegedly began. In principle, the church on earth offers the same thing to everyone - with its churching after baptism. If you are satisfied with going through everything on Earth that the biblical Jesus supposedly went through, then you can give your souls and the souls of your children to the church.
Author Vladimir Voronov.
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The opinion of the priests
Church ministers most often name three reasons why a person may feel ill in church.
Devilry
The priests believe that evil spirits can cause illness in the temple. Demons do not want a person to attend church, to be cleansed of sins and to commune with God, so they try by any means to “take” the parishioner away from the temple.
Church ministers advise not to pay attention to such ailments and try to come to services again and again.
Tears of tenderness
It happens that while in church, a person feels tremors in the limbs, goosebumps “running” across the skin, and also a desire to cry. This condition cannot be brought under control. The priests call this phenomenon “tears of tenderness” and advise not to restrain yourself.
When asked why things are getting bad in the church, the answers of the priests are almost the same: because we are not parishioners, as it should be, but parishioners - we very rarely come to church
Other priests claim that tears can flow by themselves because the human soul yearns for God and desires repentance. This situation requires more frequent visits to church, communion and spiritual cleansing.
Obsession
Many priests agree that if a person becomes ill in the temple, it means he is possessed. This does not mean at all that the parishioner has been possessed by a demon, because there are many other obsessions, in particular, drunkenness, drug addiction, pride and others.
If you want to get rid of obsession, you should suffer from illness, not leave the church, read prayers and take communion. God will definitely hear your requests and help you get rid of addictions.
Why did negative thoughts and feelings arise from going to church?
It's sad that your experience at the temple was so negative. The rudeness of church workers is the talk of the town. But each of us has our own shortcomings; we should not expect holiness or the Christian ideal from the grandmother behind the candle box. Although rare, this also happens. I dare to suggest that she didn’t like something about your appearance, clothes, cosmetics, behavior, and with her harshness she tried to point this out to you. Her mistake was rudeness; it hurt your pride. You were in grief, but she didn’t know that initially you weren’t going to the temple, but to a performance. (This was also worth talking about, but let’s leave this one out of the picture). Therefore, she achieved the opposite result. Forgive her, I'm sure she wanted what was best. It’s good that a more tactful person was nearby.
As for the second situation, it is much more complicated. It’s hard for me to believe that the question was posed exactly like this: leave the dying man, let’s go to the funeral service for the dead man. The priest probably did not fully understand the severity of the situation, people were waiting in the church, he was also in a hurry, the ambulance was about to arrive... Yes, it was impossible to leave a person in such a situation if there was still a chance to save his life. But at the same time, we should not forget that everything is in the hands of God; according to His will, the hour of death of a person is appointed. The Gospel of Christ teaches us that everyone is given a cross. And we can either begin to grumble at fate, having lost the correct disposition of the heart towards the cross (perceive a harsh statement as an insult, illness as an oversight by doctors, death as a medical error, etc.), or accept everything with humility (like a robber, crucified on the cross with Christ: “Remember me, Lord, when you come into Your kingdom” (Luke 23:39-43)) and through this become involved in the royal cross of Christ. And the cross, of course, will never be eliminated from human life.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to justify anything and everything. There really is a problem. Even priests sometimes become disillusioned with the church system. A few years ago, Boris Grebenshchikov wrote a sad song about this: “I came to drink water; I couldn’t recognize its taste.” It contains these lines:
“Senseless against and for, It’s just that something has changed in your eyes; When salt loses its potency, it becomes poison."
Later, Boris told how a priest from the provinces approached him in St. Petersburg and thanked him for this song, because it expressed what many priests understand and feel, but cannot say.
All this is said not to denigrate the situation, but to understand and correct it. For the laity, so as not to unnecessarily idealize the clergy, but for them, so as to begin to change. The problem is actually rooted much deeper and arose a long time ago, but I won’t go into details here either.
Believe me, there are sincere and unselfish priests who can say together with the holy Apostle Paul: “I am not looking for yours, but for you” (Cor. 12:14), i.e. your salvation and spiritual prosperity. A specific need and misfortune brought you to the temple. I hope that over time you will turn to God, seeking Him and wanting to commune with Him. And this experience, albeit negative, can also be turned into good if it gives rise to spiritual thirst, the search for truth and answers to the basic questions of existence.
As far as I can tell, you wrote the question without knowing that you were addressing an Old Believer priest. If this happens, then get to know the Russian Orthodox Old Believers Church better. Help, Lord!
Obsession
There is a concept of possession, when a person becomes ill in church (especially during the service). The point is that a person has a lot of sinfulness (drunkenness and use of illegal drugs, fornication, pride, excessive self-confidence, dislike for people, etc.). You should not think that such a person is hopeless and has no forgiveness. Anyone who wants to take the true path will, in any case, find a way to it. You need to get out of your comfort zone to visit church again and again. It will be wonderful if a person decides to sincerely repent and give up his sinful habits. You also need to confess, take communion, attend services more often and ask the Lord for strength to cope with your vices.
Large crowd of people
There are many people present in the church. In addition, candles are burning, the aroma of incense is present, dim lighting and other factors provoke the occurrence of attacks of fainting and other unpleasant manifestations of poor health. It is not surprising that some people do not tolerate a lack of oxygen well. You don’t even have to talk about spiritual things when a person simply can’t breathe and has nowhere to turn around. This has a negative effect, both physically and psychologically.
Psycho-emotional state
There is a special atmosphere in the church. The whole ambience, which is distinguished by dim light, an abundance of icons, the characteristic smell of incense, the low voice of a priest reading prayers, as well as the melodic chant of a church choir, evokes different sensations and emotions. Some people immerse themselves in an atmosphere that they find calming and comfortable. Others feel some anxiety, nervousness and even fear about what is happening. There are often cases when the heart sinks because the room seems to be saturated with mystery (faces of saints are looking at you from everywhere, which are painted very high quality, and in the twilight it looks as if the icons are alive). People with unstable psyches or particularly impressionable people perceive the atmosphere very emotionally, which makes them feel bad.
A person who loves her should criticize the Church
– Who can criticize the Church?
– I think that only a person who loves her and treats her like a mother can constructively criticize the Church. Only such criticism will benefit us, the members of the Church. Although it is useful to humble us. It’s useful for me personally because I’m a proud person.
Although I have never driven a Mercedes, and even if they give it to me, I won’t go. But yes, unfair criticism keeps me on my toes.
I remember the time of my faith - high school. 1982-1985, when I internally learned to resist the state ideology of atheism. In this sense, it’s easier for me: I have something to remember and just restore the skill.
The Lord allows criticism so that we don’t relax. Criticism is also useful so that we, believers, can train our intellect so that we can defend our faith.
But something can be changed in the Church only through criticism of inner pain, through criticism from someone who loves, who has been in the Church for twenty, thirty years...
And when it comes from outside, it sounds strange. For example, they say: “The Church receives money from the state.” And no one remembers that for 25 years the Church has been restoring property that is not its own at its own expense. There is a society, and society has architectural monuments, and the whole society is responsible for these monuments. Even non-believers of this society are responsible for ensuring that monuments are preserved. It is not for them to decide that most of these monuments are temples. This is what our ancestors decided.
But society in the early nineties easily shifted the problem of preserving its monuments, its heritage onto the Church. And all this time we have been working hard, maintaining and restoring what does not belong to us. Now some churches have begun to be transferred into the ownership of the Church.
Why, when the Church receives some crumbs of money to restore state property, does swearing begin?
– Why doesn’t the Church always give an appropriate assessment to those who speak and do unacceptable things in its name, because this negatively affects its reputation?
– The Church has a practice developed over many centuries not to do anything hastily. Because if you do things hastily, you cannot get out of the context and look at the situation from the outside. It seems to me that the Church should not work in the rhythm of presenting news on the Internet, when something happened half an hour ago, and a comment an hour later.
But it is clear that the dialogue on behalf of the Church should be conducted by people who have the appropriate cultural level, preferably with a first higher secular education. The wisdom of the leadership is to put precisely such people in the press services and send them to negotiations.
Unfortunately, any small reason, any inappropriate statement can be blown up into national news. We live in this new reality. We must get used to being fully responsible for our words, get used to the fact that we live as if under a glass bell, where spotlights are directed at us from all sides, and any action can be inflated to the point of discussion throughout the country. So a clergyman needs to think carefully before saying anything.
How to protect yourself from Abara
Abara is a very powerful demon, moreover, his strength is constantly fed by the efforts of black magicians who worship him and perform rituals in his honor.
The darkest and most powerful magic is created under his influence and patronage. It is difficult to protect against it, but possible. The main obstacle on his way will be true faith, as well as the dedication of his soul to the Light forces and avoidance of Evil Spirits in thoughts and deeds. A sacrificial prayer, which is said from the heart, also helps to escape from the demon. Worshiping Abara is a great sin and punishment for it will inevitably befall the sinner.
Presence of evil spirits
Priests tend to insist that one of the common causes of poor health in the church is evil spirits. It has an extremely negative effect on some people in order to in every possible way prevent a person from taking the right path (so that he can be cleansed). Many church ministers can give a huge number of examples of such behavior precisely in connection with the reasons described. The evil spirit tries to remove the person from the desire to be in the temple, so he does everything possible to make him feel uncomfortable. If such a reaction is noticed, you should try to come to church again (this recommendation from priests applies more to those who have just started visiting the temple). Try several times. Surely in the second or third you will feel more calm.
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Standing for long periods of time
It is no exaggeration to say that standing for long periods of time requires good physical fitness. Sometimes standing in one place is more difficult than walking several kilometers at a brisk pace. And church services often last for several hours. Among the parishioners there are people with cardiovascular diseases, problems with blood circulation, and there are parishioners with sore legs. Standing for several hours in conditions of stuffiness, pungent odors and lack of oxygen is not something every elderly person or person with chronic diseases can do. Everything comes together and causes a critical reaction in the body.
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Finding answers to questions
Some people go to church in order to find answers to questions that concern them. And since visiting a temple is not a visit to a psychologist and you cannot get an exact formulated answer, dissatisfaction causes disappointment and negative manifestations (even on the physical level). In this case, priests recommend realizing that understanding the truth should come directly from yourself. Believe and don’t give up, soon going to church will become the most pleasant moment for you.
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